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Elizabeth Dale

Female 1816 - 1890  (~ 74 years)

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  • Name Elizabeth Dale 
    Nickname Bessie 
    Christened 26 Feb 1816  North Newbald, East Riding of Yorkshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Gender Female 
    Died 13 Sep 1890  Los Angeles, California Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Buried Rosedale Cemetery, Los Angeles, California Find all individuals with events at this location 
    • [The following is a transcription of a handwritten document in the possession of Mary B. Dawson. At the top of the first page, someone has added the statement, "Written by Mrs. John Bradbeer six months before her death in Los Angeles, California, Jan 2, 1890." Mrs. John Bradbeer was Bessie (or Elizabeth) Dale. She died in Sep 1890, so the implication is that these notes were written in Jan 1890. The text is copied as exactly as possible; where letters/words cannot be read, they are indicated with elipses or a question mark. A few explanatory insertions of mine are in brackets; parentheses are in the original.]

      My Father Richard Dale and Mother Ann West were born in Newbird [Newbald] Yorkshire England it the time of my birth 1816. We lived there till 1820 when we moved to America. In Nov 1819 my Father came to Cobourg Canada and my mother came in June 1820 with four children, Mary, Joseph, Bessie (myself) and David aged eighteen months. We came across the ocean in a sailing vessel and were fourteen weeks on the way. During the voyage we all were very sick with the whooping cough and my Mother feared that my brother Joseph and myself would never live to see my father. We landed at Carrying Place Canada about 18 miles from Cobourg. There was no waiting room or pleasant place to stop and rest us and my mother sat down on a stone and gave us all something for us to eat. Other passengers had landed too and were waiting at the same place but there was not a face familiar to my mother and she began to cry. She had sent word to my Father that the vessel would arrive on that day and she felt sure that he would be faithful to his word and send some one or come himself after us.

      We had been there but a short time when my Mother heard a man asking some one if he had seen a woman with four children come off the vessel. She jumped up quick and said "I must be the woman, who sent you." "Richard Dale" replied the man and my Mother felt a very great load lifted from her heart. When we had driven about fifteen miles we met my Father coming to meet us he had walked three miles and how my Dear Mother rejoiced to see him he had remained at home to have a good meal ready for us and had hired a man to go after us who was acquainted with the roads and could manage the horses better than my Father. Shortly
      after our arrival Father bought a small farm of 50 acres [someone later changed this to 70 acres] one mile from the village of Cobourg for the sum of 50 pounds or $250[?]. On this farm seven more children were born Jane, Annie, Anthony, Hannah, Andrew, Martha, and Charlotte making eleven in all. Here my Father and Mother lived the remainder of their lives.

      In 1837 our house was destroyed by fire. There was one room my father had built for a school room and after our schooldays were over it was used for a store room. Some of the baking was done there as we had a small iron oven built in the chimney. On the 4th of June 1837 we were baking a pigeon pie in that oven. The frost had settled the chimney so that the fire broke out between the bricks and the house was in flames before we knew anything of it. My Father and the boys were away "training". Well do I remember how proud my bro Dave was of his f....
      trousers with the red stripes, cap with long white feathers and cutaway coat with gilt buttons. We could of saved every thing only we were so frightened that we did nothing but run and scream fire and left Mother to battle with the fire alone. She saved most of the things down stairs first of all she carried out the drawer that contained Father's deeds and other valuable papers, she carried them out in the field and hid them. Before long the school teacher and some scholars saw the fire and came to help. Many things could not be saved at all. We had bedding piled up stairs from the floor to the ceiling and four feather beds three or four barrels of flour and pork & .... all were lost.

      When my father came home the near neighbors were all there and one of them remarked to Father, "I am sorry Mr Dale you have lost your home and so much else too after you have worked so hard for it." Father said, "is my family safe? and when told they were he said, I am rich yet.

      We were not destitute, we still had the stock and land and Father had money enough saved to build again. We had a nice new barn and that was soon made comfortable for us to live in for awhile.

      When we sat down to supper Mother spoke of the pigeon pie, she ran to the oven and there it was well baked and the crust well blackened we cut it open and found the pigeons all right and we enjoyed eating them.

      I had fifty cents which had been given me and I had it hid safely away. I ran and looked among the ruins but could not find it and when I mourned over my loss Mother said "that is just the way of a miser."

      The new house was soon built and was much more convenient than the other still we never thought it was quite as nice as the other one. We did not like the hard mattresses but our feather beds were gone. Mother said it was worse for me because she could not give me what she wished when I was married which occurred shortly after this. Many of the bed clothes and a feather bed were to of been mine.

      John Bradbeer was born in Taunton Somersetshire England in 1809 and came to America when he was 18 years old. In 1832 when the cholera was raging he came from lower Canada to his Brother's home in Cobourg and in 1838 we were married.

      We lived about one mile from my old house three or four years while my husband worked at his trade (carpenter). Then he bought a farm half a mile from my fathers there we lived until 1861. We were happy and were prospered while there until through misrepresentations of a lawyer we made a trade of that farm for one in Codrington Brighton township and moved there with our ten children. Seven boys and three girls Joseph, James, John, Jane, Libbie [Elizabeth], Andrew, Richard, West [William West], George and Emma then just one month old. All have been good children kind and good to their parents.

      We were very much disappointed in the farm at C. We moved there in the winter and after the snow melted we found the ground covered with stones so large they looked almost like sheep.

      We succeeded in trading that farm for a nicer one near by ................... Moved to Farwell Clare Co Mich at which place my husband died in 1879 in the month of May at the age of 71 [?] years six of his children being present at that time. [John Bradbeer actually died just across the county line from Farwell, in Isabella County.]

      I am at Los Angeles at my sons at the present time, two other sons and one daughter are here.
    Person ID I942  Colin and Arminta's Families | Dales
    Last Modified 28 Feb 2005 

    Father Richard Dale,   b. Yorkshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 12 Apr 1844, Cobourg, Ontario Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Mother Anne West,   b. Abt 1786, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 8 Feb 1864, Cobourg, Ontario Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 78 years) 
    Family ID F159  Group Sheet

    Family John Bradbeer 
    Married 1838 
    Family ID F295  Group Sheet

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    Link to Google MapsChristened - 26 Feb 1816 - North Newbald, East Riding of Yorkshire, England Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsDied - 13 Sep 1890 - Los Angeles, California Link to Google Earth
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